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Reply #15 - 7th Jan, 2018 at 7:43pm
 
Let's hope that after that performance it will silence the only turn up when were winning so called supporters
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Reply #16 - 10th Jan, 2018 at 12:30pm
 
I havenít been to many games this season. I started off with the first couple, Billericay defeat and the Worthing victory and that was it for me. Iím sure Iím not alone here, but it has little to to with not turning up if weíre not winning (as I said, the last match I saw was actually a win) but more to do with the lack of entertaining football. If Iím paying £11 to get into a match, I would like to get just a little entertainment back in return. But sorry, there was no semblance of fluid Football in either game, the Worthing one in particular was a bloody hard slog to sit through.

But that was all in the bad old Ady days, so I thought Iíd give it another go under the refreshing new management. I came along to the Brightlingsea match and, God help us, it was no better. Just a whole afternoon of aimless long balls while the opposition were the only ones capable of putting together any decent passing†moves. On a really cold day I left with the same feeling of having paid out £11 for zero entertainment as the previous games, but this time being half frozen to death too.

As I said, Iím not a Ďglory seekerí although Iíd obviously love to see the Trawlerboys competing at the top end of the division, but I do want just a little entertainment value for money. Iíd suggest that most of the missing 200 or so regulars from previous years feel the same way. Itís a bit disrespectful to call them people who Ďonly turn up when the teams winningí when you havenít spoken to any of them. Bring back Passion, a decent level of fluid passing and an element of entertainment and many will return even if the results remain a bit hit or miss. In other words, the team needs to replicate the fighting spirit at Tonbridge in home games rather than the abject capitulation I witnessed in the Brightlingsea match.
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Reply #17 - 10th Jan, 2018 at 3:46pm
 
As you said you havent seen many games so do you think that yours is a fair assessment after three games.  I will leave my assessment until the end of season. PS I've only missed 2 games so far home and away
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Reply #18 - 11th Jan, 2018 at 11:30am
 
Obviously not an assessment of the season as a whole. Just a fair assessment of the three matches I've seen, two under the old regime and one under the new one. Basically, £33 of admission fees for very little entertainment value. There may well have been some home games which have been entertaining, and I do read this message board and local paper reports and don't recall too many descriptions of entertaining matches. But like anyone who goes to any football ground in the Country, you can only judge on what you see in determining whether you return to future matches.

Pleased that you've managed to see all bar two games this season. Even if I wasn't taking the view that I wasn't happy with what I'd seen, my lifestyle would not allow me to attend as many games. So, in a fair and balance assessment, how many of the home matches you've seen this season would you describe as entertaining and full value for an £11 admission fee?
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Reply #19 - 11th Jan, 2018 at 4:45pm
 
As I said I will leave my assessment until the end of the season
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Reply #20 - 11th Jan, 2018 at 5:51pm
 
I'd always put the result above performance in order of importance for me. Great if you can have both but I'd rather a scrappy 1-0 win than an entertaining defeat.

Lowestoft are no different from other clubs in that they have a mix of supporters and fans. Supporters will support the team through thick and thin, irrespective of results. Whereas Fans come and go based on results, performances, their favourite player leaving, etc.
However, and understandably there are obviously people who can't come to some games because of finances or other commitments and that's fair enough.

That will never change in football but I do find it odd personally. Just like I've always found it odd when people leave before the end if the result isn't to their desire.
I get that if people have paid their money, then they can do what they wish but I've never got my head around it. Especially when they then refer to themselves as supporters instead of fans. As that's the difference for me.

I think overall we're doing okay considering the changes on and off the field in recent seasons and the continuation of those changes and the purse strings having to be tightened.

We're a mid-table club at present (taking everything into account) and results are going to be up and down. Yes there have been a few games in which we've come up short but overall the lads seem to be trying their best.

Unfortunately I can't comment on away games, as I've not been for a while due to work commitments and ill-health but should be back on the away coach soon though and can't wait.

If anything the club and players need supporters, fans and the town to support them more than ever during this period of change and re-building. A town this size should be getting bigger gates.

COYB!!
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Re: Tonbridge Angels (A) 6/1/2018
Reply #21 - 11th Jan, 2018 at 7:50pm
 
Having been a follower of the clubs fortunes for more than five decades I've answered to the label of fan, supporter, glory hunter and latterly charlatan. Win lose or draw my primary motivation in watching the club perform is to be entertained.

However you may try and describe those that offer support and their hard earned to their local football club there will always be others that occupy an elevated but not always prestigious Uber or Ultra slot.

To those I say this.....you have lost sight of the fact that football is a sport that offers first and foremost entertainment to its many attendees. To the Ultras this thinking is sacrilegious. Rather a dour ground out 1-0 win than an entertaining 4-3 thrilling loss.

I well remember a game at Canvey when my comments set in train a series of events that only recently have been consigned to the history books.

I took untold flak for calling out the Trawlerboys efforts under Fleming, when more often than not we ground out those 1-0 wins. At times it was a depressing way to spend leisure time. Any criticism was seen as traitorous and the club consequently, in the form of the Chairman, severed its link to this very forum.

That's how deep the divisions ran. Sure we achieved promotion but we shed tens of fans in the process who voted with their feet and abandoned the club.

From a high water mark of almost 800, Fleming managed to reduce that to barely 500 paying punters in a five year period. That's a third less than when he began his reign. Many haven't returned and worryingly more are joining their ranks.

Thankfully under the new regime there is an acceptance of the fact that fans will be vocal in their approval or otherwise. No more the propaganda of Believe and Staying Onside and other meaningless sloganising.

It was never appreciated by the previous regime that giving value for money should always be the clubs prime motivator rather than promotion by whatever means.

The fayre that Fleming and recently Gallagher have provided was functional at best and eye bleeding at worst. It is no wonder that gates are at a low ebb currently. They have been on the slide for almost a decade.

Let's be under no illusion if the quality of entertainment provided at the Meadow doesn't improve then gates will reduce even further. Thankfully the current Board and Management are aware of this task that confronts them.

It is just not good enough to bemoan the fact that the football folk of the town don't turn up anymore. They are not sufficiently galvanised by the quality of entertainment on offer.
Win, lose or draw give the fans† entertaining football or as a club wither.







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Re: Tonbridge Angels (A) 6/1/2018
Reply #22 - 12th Jan, 2018 at 6:31pm
 
not wishing to get into any arguments , we all have our reasons for turning up or staying away.
Just to highlight some sentiment,saw a pre 2017/18 regular at the harlow home game, I asked where had he been, fed up with the style of football came the reply, 90 minutes later I didn't dare ask if he would be back !
As for points v performance  a few gritty nil nils or 1 nil either way are fine by me but the days of looking for promotion are long gone , so with mid table about right, surely we can hope for a bit more fun alongside the mandatory good shift, I would see raising attendances as the primary objective  especially when some will be looking for new contracts .
Looking forward to tomorrow , a bit of footy, some quality along with spirit and  thus encouragement for attending the many games still left.

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