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Which Division next season?
11th Dec, 2017 at 8:32pm
 
The subject of which league Lowestoft will be competing in next season came up in discussion on Saturday over a few 🍷🍷🍷🍷
As I'm sure most are now aware the FA have agreed the new structure at Step 3 and below......discussed here earlier in the year.
http://www.lowestofttownfcfansforum.co.uk/cgi-bin/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1485282127

Robert Jones, a Warrington fan, has provided a comprehensive view of where the FA will allocate clubs in the following season, on the Tony Kempster non league forum.
For the past six years I have been following his predictions for the next seasons leagues. He has been correct about which league Lowestoft will compete in, each and every year.

His latest allocations for next season show us remaining in the Isthmian Premier of the new four league structure at Level 3....

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1_JqEhxDhFeRtQSkiAIz1qpBX3aU&ll=52.8655...

If he is proved correct yet again, then we can look forward to return visits to many of our current Isthmian League counterparts. The line dividing East and West bisects London and we lose Met Police, Harrow, Levred and Kingstonian along with Staines. No Bank Holiday "Derbies" with Kings Lynn either.

As his projections are based on a points per game basis we can 'look forward' to a return to Whitehawk. We could be revisiting Cray and one of my favourites Lewes. On the same basis a couple of new names in Corinthian Casuals and somewhat surprisingly Heybridge Swifts.

Interestingly Heybridge have played more Cup than league games to date !!!
17 v 11.
With only eleven games completed in Isthmian League One North they are currently mid table with 25pts and could yet challenge Hornchurch for the title.
Although, unlike Billericay, I'm not sure that that the Swifts possess the necessary playing strength to play Tues/Sat for the rest of the season; and their exploits in the Trophy are not over yet. Hampton and Richmond next up.

These projections presume of course that we are not relegated, which thankfully now looks a very distant prospect.😎
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Reply #1 - 12th Dec, 2017 at 4:37pm
 
That would be my preferred option, I have about £15 credit on my Dartford Crossing account Cheesy. It would put us with Merstham, which I enjoyed, as well as Lewes which is also one of my favourites Smiley
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Reply #2 - 15th Dec, 2017 at 1:32pm
 
After the debacle of the National League North, South, North Again, if the FA have any opportunity, it wouldn't surprise me if they placed us here http://uk.soccerway.com/national/netherlands/tweede-divisie/20172018/regular-sea....

It is step 3 after all.

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Reply #3 - 16th Dec, 2017 at 4:34am
 
VictorM wrote on 15th Dec, 2017 at 1:32pm:
After the debacle of the National League North, South, North Again, if the FA have any opportunity, it wouldn't surprise me if they placed us here http://uk.soccerway.com/national/netherlands/tweede-divisie/20172018/regular-sea....

It is step 3 after all.



I note that the current leaders of the Tweede Division are VV Katwijk
https://www.vvkatwijk.nl/index.php?page=Fotoalbum&articleId=22&sid=1#3
a pleasant coastal town once twinned with Lowestoft.

Whatever happened to that arrangement?
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Reply #4 - 22nd Dec, 2017 at 8:09am
 
In 1996 the 34-year twinning link with Katwijk stopped because they couldn't keep enough interest for it going as Lowestoft is boring (according to reports at the time).
It was always a civic and ceremonial partnership, not a people-led one like the twinning with the Ville de Plaisir.

Better than fighting though, the formation of the EU has brought a period of peace and stability ............

De eerste belangrijke zeeslag was een Engelse overwinning op 13 juni 1665 bij Lowestoft. Van de 103 Nederlandse schepen gingen er 17 verloren, waaronder het vlaggenschip de Eendragt dat met admiraal Jacob van Wassenaer Obdam de lucht in ging.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowestoft
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Reply #5 - 8th Feb, 2018 at 7:51pm
 
Non-league projections - not sure at all how accurate this is or who can confidently second guess the FA's decision but interesting nonetheless.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1inu6blXlaCuykULnRxHPFLMcCnAPU1NtmlM27JJ9
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Reply #6 - 8th Feb, 2018 at 7:53pm
 
Jimbo wrote on 8th Feb, 2018 at 7:51pm:


The above link needs to be all on one line but this forum wont let me post it as so, so a copy and paste job for you to get it to work....


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Reply #7 - 8th Feb, 2018 at 8:35pm
 
Jimbo wrote on 8th Feb, 2018 at 7:53pm:
Jimbo wrote on 8th Feb, 2018 at 7:51pm:


The above link needs to be all on one line but this forum wont let me post it as so, so a copy and paste job for you to get it to work....





The link Jimbo posted, which shows Wazzafans latest projections (see post #1) is broken

It can be viewed here....
http://goo.gl/MW6EFU
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Reply #8 - 9th Feb, 2018 at 7:24am
 
Cheers Ronsdog, the origonal link worked for me if you put the whole link together -  as i said for some reason, this forum when I clicked post it puts the link onto 2 lines (even though there is room for it all to fit on one), losing the entire hyperlink.
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Reply #9 - 22nd Feb, 2018 at 6:59pm
 
Thanks to movement at the top in other leagues at Step 3, I note that the latest projection shows all the Suffolk clubs as founder members of the new Midlands division. Back where we were in Decemeber then.
http://goo.gl/MW6EFU

Re-visiting Telford and Hednesford and a host of new clubs and grounds to become acquainted with. Sadly we won't be going here.....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nene_Park

As projections can change and fluctuate along with clubs fortunes, it's second guessing at best. But I would rather rely on Wazzafans foresight than Mystic Megs, as he has been proved correct over the past six seasons.
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Reply #10 - 23rd Feb, 2018 at 12:22am
 


As it stands at 23/02/2018 the following would be founder members of the Midlands Division at Step 3.

A.F.C. Rushden & Diamonds
A.F.C. Telford United
Alvechurch
Banbury United
Barwell
Biggleswade Town
Coalville Town
Halesowen Town
Hednesford Town
Hitchin Town
Kettering Town
Leiston
Lowestoft Town
Needham Market
Redditch United
Royston Town
Rushall Olympic
St. Ives Town
St. Neots Town
Stafford Rangers
Stratford Town
Stourbridge

There's a few on that list that would be first visits.
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Reply #11 - 23rd Feb, 2018 at 7:55am
 
Interesting projections, I thought Telford would be the longest trip but its only 215 miles 10 miles further than if we went to Margate or Brighton (Whitehawk) 205 miles via the A11, which suits picking up the players from Norwich along the way. Would be great to go back to Telford again, nice ground and a nice welcome with their fans last time.
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Reply #12 - 27th Feb, 2018 at 8:24am
 
The FA’s Leagues Committee reveal provisional Step 3 and 4 league boundaries for the 2018/19 season


https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/latest-news/22003/the-fas-leagues-comm...
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Reply #13 - 27th Feb, 2018 at 8:26pm
 
Wazzafan spot on again .....no surprise there then.

There could yet be some change of opponents, as fortunes wane or prosper.

Should Kings Lynn not make promotion through the play offs then we could yet meet. It's unlikely that they will catch Hereford for the Southern League Title.
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Reply #14 - 1st Mar, 2018 at 11:21pm
 
Dale Brooks expresses concern at the potential of longer journeys for the club as a result of the changes at Step 3.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/lowestoft-town/lowestoft-town-worried-over-non-leag...

I trust the following puts this into some perspective.......

Isthmian League 🚌 Journeys

Leiston                  24 miles.              0.43 mins
Needham.             45.                        1hr 19 mins
Brightlingsea.       72.                      1.34
Billericay.              96.                      1.59
Thurrock.             111.                      2.12
Harlow                  114.                     2.13
Enfield.                 119.                     2 .15
Wingate.               127.                     2.29
Dulwich.                132.                    2.45
Hendon.                134.                    2.36
Tonbridge.            136.                    2.34
Harrow.                 138.                    2.45
Tooting.                140.                    2.53
Mertsham.            145.                   2.40
Kingstonian.         150.                    2.43
Leatherhead.        150.                   2.43
Dorking.                150.                    2.51
Met Police.            157.                    2.55
Staines.                  160.                   2.54
Burgess Hill.          164.                   2.57
Folkestone             170.                   2.59
Margate.                 171.                   3.04
Worthing.               185.                   3.20

23 🚌 trips.            2990 miles.        57 hrs
Average trip = 130 miles
Average journey time = 148 mins

Midland League 🚌 Journeys

Leiston.                         24 miles.            0.43 mins
Needham.                     45.                      1 hr 19 mins
Royston                         93.                    1.54
St Ives.                           95.                     1.59
St Neots.                        98.                     2.00
Biggleswade.                105.                    2.11
Hitchin.                          107.                    2.15
Kettering.                       121.                    2.21
Rushden                         121.                    2.24
Barwell.                          160.                    3.04
Banbury.                        166.                    3.08
Coalville.                        170                     3.04
Stratford.                       178.                     3.15
Rushall Olympic.           185.                    3.19
Chasetown                    187                     3.13
Redditch.                       188.                    3.19
Halesowen.                    192.                    3.21
Stourbridge.                  197.                     3.30
Alvechurch.                   198.                    3.20
Hednesford.                  202.                   3.22
Stafford/Telford             206.                   3.34

21 🚌 trips.                        3038 miles.          55 hrs
Average trip = 144 miles
Average journey time = 157 mins

Two less trips, which is two less 🚌 hires in the Midland League and only marginally longer trips. A plus is that there is no London traffic to contend with.

It appears from this analysis, that what the FA has proposed, serves Lowestoft and Leiston who are both out on a geographical limb, well.

What's not to like Brooksy?
After all it's unlikely there will be trips to the far West in the guise of Hereford, who screwed us over in the past.👍😄

Thoughts?

ps....it doesn't serve us London based fans too well, but hey that's unimportant in the wider scheme of things🚘☹️





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